7.65×20mm Long
Introduced 1917Remington Arms (John Pedersen)
Also known as 7.65mm Longue — the same cartridge under different names, all of which find this page.
Dimensions and pressure
Generated from the schema, like every specification table on this site, so a figure recorded on this entry cannot be missing from the table.
Identity
- Designed by
- Remington Arms (John Pedersen)
- Introduced
- 1917
- Production
- 1918–1960
- Standards body
- No standards body
- Case type
- Rimless
- Case shape
- Straight
Dimensions
- Bullet diameter
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
- Bore diameter
- not recorded
- Case length
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
- Overall length
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
- Rim diameter
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
- Neck diameter
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
- Base diameter
from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round
Pressure
- Maximum pressure
- not recorded
- Pressure standard
- not recorded
SAAMI and C.I.P. measure pressure differently and their figures are not interchangeable, which is why the body is always named beside the figure.
Loads
Velocity is recorded per barrel length as published. A gun page interpolates between these points and never projects beyond them.
77 gr FMJ ball
- Bullet mass
77 gr full metal jacket, from the infobox ballistics table, uncited on Wikipedia; the same table states no test-barrel length so no velocity point is recorded
- Cartridge mass
- not recorded
- Bullet type
- FMJ
- G1 BC
- not recorded
- G7 BC
- not recorded
Chambered in
Computed from every entry that lists this cartridge. Nothing here is hand-maintained.
No entry on the site is chambered in it yet.
Gallery

Image credit
- Title
- File:7.65mm Longue ATS 1948 Cartridges.png
- Author
- Hatchetfish(attribution required)
- Licence
- CC BY-SA 3.0
- Source
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:7.65mm_Longue_ATS_1948_Cartridges.png

Image credit
- Title
- File:7.65mm Longue ATS 1948 Headstamp.jpg
- Author
- Hatchetfish(attribution required)
- Licence
- CC BY-SA 3.0
- Source
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:7.65mm_Longue_ATS_1948_Headstamp.jpg
Detail
The 7.65×20mm Long was designed at Remington Arms in 1917 by John Pedersen as a compact, rimless pistol-and-carbine round intended for the semi-automatic Pedersen device, an insert that let a bolt-action Springfield rifle fire it as a semi-automatic carbine. The device never reached combat before the First World War ended, but France adopted the cartridge afterward for its own service pistols and submachine guns, and it remained in French service use into the 1960s under the name 7.65mm Longue.
Its straight, rimless case and small overall length reflect its origin as a compact intermediate round rather than a full-power rifle cartridge: it was built to give a pistol- or carbine-length action worthwhile range and accuracy without the size or recoil of a full rifle round, sitting between contemporary pistol cartridges and full-power rifle rounds of the period. France chambered it in service pistols such as the MAS Modèle 1935 series and in submachine guns including the MAS-38.
This entry’s dimensions come from Wikipedia’s infobox, none of them individually cited on Wikipedia itself, and no free C.I.P. or SAAMI dimensional standard was found for this military round — it never went into commercial production outside France’s own service channels. The one ballistics figure Wikipedia’s infobox publishes, a 77-grain full metal jacket bullet, states no test-barrel length, so it is recorded here as a bullet weight only, with no velocity point.
References
- 7.65×20mm Long · 1324901236 · read 2026-09-04
Last verified 2026-09-04 · review status: draft