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7.65×20mm Long

Introduced 1917Remington Arms (John Pedersen)

Also known as 7.65mm Longue — the same cartridge under different names, all of which find this page.

Dimensions and pressure

Generated from the schema, like every specification table on this site, so a figure recorded on this entry cannot be missing from the table.

Identity
Designed by
Remington Arms (John Pedersen)
Introduced
1917
Production
1918–1960
Standards body
No standards body
Case type
Rimless
Case shape
Straight
Dimensions
Bullet diameter
7.85 mm0.3091 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Bore diameter
not recorded
Case length
19.7 mm0.7756 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Overall length
30.24 mm1.191 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Rim diameter
8.5 mm0.3346 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Neck diameter
8.5 mm0.3346 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Base diameter
8.53 mm0.3358 inestimatedsource

from the infobox, uncited on Wikipedia; no free C.I.P. or SAAMI datasheet found for this military round

Pressure
Maximum pressure
not recorded
Pressure standard
not recorded

SAAMI and C.I.P. measure pressure differently and their figures are not interchangeable, which is why the body is always named beside the figure.

Loads

Velocity is recorded per barrel length as published. A gun page interpolates between these points and never projects beyond them.

77 gr FMJ ball

Bullet mass
4.99 g77.01 grestimatedsource

77 gr full metal jacket, from the infobox ballistics table, uncited on Wikipedia; the same table states no test-barrel length so no velocity point is recorded

Cartridge mass
not recorded
Bullet type
FMJ
G1 BC
not recorded
G7 BC
not recorded

Chambered in

Computed from every entry that lists this cartridge. Nothing here is hand-maintained.

No entry on the site is chambered in it yet.

Detail

The 7.65×20mm Long was designed at Remington Arms in 1917 by John Pedersen as a compact, rimless pistol-and-carbine round intended for the semi-automatic Pedersen device, an insert that let a bolt-action Springfield rifle fire it as a semi-automatic carbine. The device never reached combat before the First World War ended, but France adopted the cartridge afterward for its own service pistols and submachine guns, and it remained in French service use into the 1960s under the name 7.65mm Longue.

Its straight, rimless case and small overall length reflect its origin as a compact intermediate round rather than a full-power rifle cartridge: it was built to give a pistol- or carbine-length action worthwhile range and accuracy without the size or recoil of a full rifle round, sitting between contemporary pistol cartridges and full-power rifle rounds of the period. France chambered it in service pistols such as the MAS Modèle 1935 series and in submachine guns including the MAS-38.

This entry’s dimensions come from Wikipedia’s infobox, none of them individually cited on Wikipedia itself, and no free C.I.P. or SAAMI dimensional standard was found for this military round — it never went into commercial production outside France’s own service channels. The one ballistics figure Wikipedia’s infobox publishes, a 77-grain full metal jacket bullet, states no test-barrel length, so it is recorded here as a bullet weight only, with no velocity point.

References

  1. 7.65×20mm Long · 1324901236 · read 2026-09-04

Last verified 2026-09-04 · review status: draft